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This Will Never Work

Welcome to the year 2000 2010. As you know, our Big Plan is to bring the best elements of the first-person shooter massively multiplayer online game genre to the console platform.

I know, you’ve heard this before. I know you are not impressed, because every time you hear this it either never happens, or you get a weak port of an otherwise excellent PC title that does not feel at all like a true console game, and then the publisher expresses amazement that it was not successful and blames the console platform. It happens every time, and now “they” are saying that FPS MMO games are just simply better suited to the PC, and that console developers should just give up and go build more Tomb Raider and Madden sequels.

We hear you, console fans. But this time it’s going to be different, because we are willing to chart a bold course and develop an FPS MMO specifically for consoles, which will allow us to take advantage of the unique features of the platform and give you a true console experience. The pundits still say we’re crazy, and that it will never work. I guess we’ll be able to look back in ten years and know who was right.

So, let’s talk about some of these “unique features” of a console FPS MMO…

Okay, that was a bit snarky, but the parallels are striking. I can’t tell you how many industry insiders “just know” that MMOs won’t work on consoles. They also “just knew” that FPS games would not work on console *cough* Halo *cough*, and they “just knew” that any game that required an accessory would fail *cough* Guitar Hero *cough*.

The problem, of course, is that they are looking at it through the lens of the games they can see today, rather than the games that might be designed differently tomorrow. Does anyone really believe you can take a game like World of Warcraft, polished though it may be, and port it to the Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 and have a great game experience? Of course not. A great console MMO will require rethinking the fundamentals, starting with the user interface and all the way through the core combat mechanics, social infrastructure, avatar control, world interaction, and sense of pacing and scale.

More importantly, it’s not just about solving problems; it’s about taking advantage of opportunities.

Here are some opportunities we see for MMOs on consoles. These aren’t necessarily things you can only do on consoles (although many of them are), but they are instead things that are expected by console gamers and naturally supported by the platform hardware. We’ll be exploring these in greater depth in future articles. Take a look,

ponder, and feel free to share your own thoughts on the best ways to leverage the console gaming experience into the world of MMOs.


Social Gaming (No Really)

Everyone knows that MMOs are social games, right? So why do so many people associate MMOs with the stereotype of the loner 30-something guy who spends all day in his mom’s basement surrounded by old pizza boxes? (C’mon man, that’s not us. It’s our roommate’s house, and we throw the pizza boxes out every day.) In some respects MMOs can actually be antisocial, because the PC is usually in an isolated room of the house, and because you can’t easily share the experience with your roommates, friends, or family unless they bring their gaming PCs into the same room.

By contrast, game consoles are often connected to large-screen TVs in the family room, which makes it easier and more fun to invite friends and family to jump into a game and play with you. A well designed multiplayer console game, such as Lego Star Wars or Lego Indiana Jones, provides a contextual split-screen view and makes it easy for friends to join you with easy drop-in/drop-out play.

Imagine if we could bring that to the MMO world. Imagine tossing a controller to a friend so she can quickly login with her character and join you wherever you are, right on the same screen. Or perhaps she logs in with one of your characters so you can show her around the game. Either way, it adds a new dimension to the “social” aspect of MMOs.

Freedom of Movement

Remember your first few hours with Super Mario Bros., and how the controller seemed to disappear from your hand? You became one with Mario; you stopped thinking about controlling him; he was simply an extension of your will. That’s some beautiful console mojo, and something we hope to achieve in our MMOZ. Leaving behind the mouse and keyboard for the console controller gives us an opportunity to make it fun to just move through the world.

Okay, we’re not going to achieve Super Mario Bros. perfection, but we can get damn close.

Visceral Hand-to-Hand Combat

Click target. Click attack skill. Wait. Click heal skill. Click area-of-effect skill. Click new target. Click ranged attack skill. Power players: Click target. Press ’2′. Wait. Press ’5′. Press ’6′. Wait. Click new target.

Okay, it’s not that bad, but it would never fly in a console game, so it won’t fly in a console MMO. We want to get in there and mix it up with the zombie hordes. We want to fight with crowbars, chains, spoons, and, well, banjos. We want the action to be in our face, hot, and bloody.

This is tough to pull off in an MMO, because you have to consider latency when designing your combat system. Having said that, we have to do it. This will be part design magic, and part technical magic, but rest assured that making a combat system that feels more like a console than an MMO is one of our top priorities.

Vehicle Combat

You’ll be fighting for survival surrounded by the abandoned products of 21st century civilization. Will there be cars, motorcycles, and trucks? Of course. Should you be able to drive them, crash them, and splatter zombies with them? Yes, please.

Destructible Environments

Would you accept anything less? Neither would we.

Fun With Physics

You may have noticed that zombies are kind of stupid. Sure, they can rip out your beating heart and eat it in front of you if you let them get you cornered. Or if they sneak up on you at night. Or if there are just too many of them… But they still behave according to known, or at least discoverable, rules, and you should be able to have fun exploiting those rules.

Building traps from objects you find in the world (yes, including crates, but probably not pressure plates), or channeling the shambling hordes through your murder holes and across your cleverly (or even poorly) concealed pits is part of the fun. By integrating physics not only for combat and vehicles, but also for the way the zombies interact with the environment, we can give you the power to use the environment to your advantage when fending off an attack.

Invisible Interface

I’m sure you’ve seen worst-case-scenario examples of MMO user interfaces that are cluttered with countless rows of buttons, status bars, notification windows, chat messages, and icon docks. (I wish I could post an image here, but our lawyers would probably shoot me.) This is one of the main reasons that hybrid games attempting to play well on both PC and console often fail. In general, console gamers expect interfaces to be more transparent and to “get out of the way” of the game world. Moving into the console world allows us to rethink the MMO user interface and design something that is leaner, lighter, and less intrusive.

Voice Chat

We often hear that the biggest design challenge to MMOs on console is the lack of a keyboard. It’s true that people are accustomed to chatting by text, and that there is a certain comfort in the anonymity that a text communication interface provides. However, we view the fact that real-time voice chat is both ubiquitous and expected on the console platform to be a huge opportunity to bring new community and teamwork dynamics into the MMO genre. A challenging opportunity, to be sure — do you really want the badass ex-Marine in your party to sound like a 13-year-old? — but we have some good ideas about how to solve those challenges. In any case, voice chat is the gold standard in the console world, so you can bet we’ll make good use of it.

This is by no means a comprehensive list of console-speicific features, but it’s a good start. We are excited to have the opportunity to rethink the MMO from the ground up so that it is, before any other consideration, an excellent console game.

We’d love to hear your ideas as well. Tell us what you’d love to see in a console MMO!

Next up: Zombies.


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  1. Researcher: Mike Hillyer
    Date Recorded: June 6, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    “But death can’t matter in an MMO.”
    More accurate to say it hasn’t mattered so far in an MMO. What if instead of having to find your “corpse and re-incarnate” or “find your corpse and loot it for your stuff” there was no corpse, instead just one more zombie at the spot you died who looks like you. Your stuff is gone, your money is gone. You wake up at home with only the things you had the foresight to put away for such a situation. If death means losing everything you have on you instead of a minor delay while you recover it will have people behaving with the caution that this kind of a world will demand. Of course, an actual scary, fearful environment will still be up to the person’s imagination. I’d say at this point though we’re not talking of a fresh outbreak scenario but rather a world where zombies are the norm. Look at ZombieLand; in a world of survivors you’ll have more people like Tallahasee who consider zombies a nusiance rather than a source of terror, otherwise they would not survive.
    As for lag, I don’t think it will be too much of a challenge. While the world may be full of thousands of players there generally won’t be more than dozens in close proximity at any given time.

  2. Researcher: SteveZombi
    Date Recorded: June 6, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Its nice to see another update in a short space of time!
    You raise some points that I’m glad you’ve touched upon as well. I know for a fact in my house that as a console, its the main TV that gets used, so preferably I like games with a 2 player options so my Girlfriend can join in too!

    I wonder if there is anyway in which you can alter the voice feed on games? like change pitch? Could be an interesting addition to try and combat the scenario you raised?

    Regarding physics? Rag-doll physics are always welcome in games as far as I’m concerned.

    Still wondering how you guys are going to approach this..

    I keep picturing something like Left 4 Dead, from a 3rd person perspective, in a Crackdown/GTA4/Prototype Environment with something like Dragon age levelling up abilities, and a strong influence from the ‘Zombie Survival guide’ and ‘Urban Dead’. If that could be done, it would be the best zombie game to-date, bar-none.

  3. Researcher: Ken
    Date Recorded: June 6, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Yes! As few onscreen HUD stuff as possible. There’s nothing more aggravating than sacrificing crucial visual space for unnecessary character info. I have really enjoyed games that are straying away from this design. It’s fine to have while introducing a player to the game, but you should have a pretty good idea how much damage you’re taking or how exhausted you are by the condition/behaviour of your character.

  4. Researcher: Dreas
    Date Recorded: June 7, 2010 at 2:57 am

    I’m so excited about the Social Gaming part! I really hope you get it done and that it forges a new standard in the (console) MMO market.

  5. Researcher: Martin Rabl
    Date Recorded: June 7, 2010 at 3:52 am

    Nice comparison with the FPS discussion back then. When bringing a genre from one platform to the other, it’s necessary to think outside the box (or rather inside the box in term of consoles). A simple port which does not take strength and weaknesses into account won’t work. I am sure MMO’s will work on consoles but they will be different to MMO’s we know from PC’s now.

  6. Researcher: Shunk
    Date Recorded: June 7, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    (Sorry for my bad english, i’m french.)

    I’m glad to see that you’re taking risks to make a good MMO. I agree with making a minimalistic interface because i think the atmosphere is very important in a zombie game. I have no problems with menus that can be removed from the screen, but i think that health and stamina bars should be avoided.

    Voice chat could be very interesting in that kind of game, especially if zombies react when players talk too loud.

    Finally, I agree with Mike Hillyer : it would be fun if players could clear an area and secure it, restore the electric current…

    I hope that your project of making an MMOZ will work, because there are tons of players who wait for a game like that one. The number of zombie mods created by players in various games reflects that fact.

  7. Researcher: Jess
    Date Recorded: June 7, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    I’m really excited to see how you address all of these points in game, and I harbour a secret hope that the UI decluttering has some reverse impact on the PC MMOs that follow.

    One thing I’d like to see you address is regarding chat. With voice chat totally replacing text chat, it’s hard to imagine any kind of general discussion channel. Also, please bear in mind that for some people, internet anonymity isn’t just about comfort or being able to post trolling comments without consequence; it’s about freedom from harassment. (Just log onto Xbox live with a young, female-sounding voice sometime and you’ll see what I mean.) Since female gamers are a growing MMO demographic, I hope you’ll provide us some way to weed out the groups we don’t want to game with, without having to put up with hours of frustration first.

  8. Researcher: Daniel
    Date Recorded: June 8, 2010 at 11:52 am

    undead labs ftw, u guys rock and i cant wait to see what elce u come up with

  9. Researcher: Daniel
    Date Recorded: June 8, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    and now that ive fully read everything :P, would be interesting of there were main buildings (mall, army base, school) so on that players could aquire in raid style of play (clear our the place, fix it up, build defenses and so on) makeing a new hub to trade and try to survive the zombie mayhem.
    In that sence it would give players a place to call home that they would in turn have to defend and supply to get the various perks such a place would give. (place to fuel up and customize vehicles, craft new weapons and so on)
    For that though regular zombie attacks against it would have to happen and in such a way to make it a challenge keeping it, maby a mod could manage the horde and some way to up the difficulty if it seems too easy.
    Anyway that’s my two bits, good luck

  10. Researcher: nukaclaw
    Date Recorded: June 8, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    i agree with anto that is my vision for 2012! but all the same the game will take a long time to develop considering all the awesome ideas such as making traps for zombies and such. but i dont see how you can seamlessly blend the destructable enviroments in an mmo. there will be permanent changes on each server unless you have set respawn times for the enviroment wich could cause people glitching into the floor or a wall thus making them frustrated that they lost their best weapon because of a bug. also the realism would be sacrificed if you went the way of traditional mmo in which quests are the main. PLEASE don’t do that. maybe have like some events in game on special days or more EXP on the weekend. also you can’t have specific rooms for each game*such as CoD* because it would be horrible! sorry if im rambling but ive been waiting years for this game and i want to help get it right! 3 more things and ill finish. voice chat is a wonderful idea! also i think a pet system later on would be genius! imagine rescuing a dog from the clutches of a zombie horde and training it to fight by your side! or to detect infected refugees trying to enter your safe house! or even to breed to have puppies for future members of your group! lastly for deaths you should be able to insure your favorite 3 items for your next live.*such as your pet* *wink* and there could be production skills for traps* or growing food. sorry that was 4 but still i love what u guys are doing and good luck!